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somehow, so I did because I needed to have the copies   to hear music that is here today and gone tomorrow,
         ready before the rehearsals started. I think I was often   attend concerts by New Music societies where the au-
         helped, too, by the fact that most of my pieces were   dience is largely composed of other composers who
         written for my own choir and written to task. I think   are also trying to reinvent the medium. Publishers usu-
         of Bach, composing for the kids he was teaching Latin   ally have a good idea of what is marketable. One of
         to—pieces to be sung next Sunday! My situation was   my publishers said, “We won’t publish anything unless
         similar. I wasn’t usually inspired by the Muse. I was   we are convinced that the piece will sell at least 5,000
         filling particular spots in particular programs. Once   copies.” Conversely, some publishers take a risk with

         you know how the piece is supposed to function within   music that has little lucrative potential. Good music
         the structure of the program, you have some real clues   never grows old, and we’ve seen “sleepers” awake with
         as to the piece’s mood and shape. Another plus was   a touch of serendipity.
         that I, the composer, had a great relationship with a

         conductor who would program lots of my music—that   WASHBURN: Yes,  finding performances and pub-
         too, would be me.                                  lishers are perennial—perhaps eternal—problems for
                                                            composers of all ages. Also, the challenge of earning
         4) Composing music can be a very solitary          enough to support oneself while leaving suffi  cient time
         profession unless you are actively collaborat-     to pursue creative work is another.
         ing with other musicians. Finding performers          How do composers network? I’ve never been to
         and publishers who are willing to take a risk      a composer’s convention… Are there such things?
         can be a challenge too. What are some other        Choral composers are certainly welcomed at our
         challenges that face composers today?              grand choral conferences, but the focus on composi-
                                                            tion is usually secondary to the problems and activi-
         NICKEL: Most composers who wait beside their       ties of performers. These gatherings are expensive to

         phones for a commission will become depressed, grow   attend, but they do offer composers the opportunity
         cobwebs, and eventually rigor mortis. Being assertive   to meet their customers. Which brings us to commis-
         is key to success.                                 sions. Many conductors want the impossible: unique,
           “I’ve written this composition with your choir in   innovative, impressive works, which are short, sweet,
         mind. Could you give it a try?” This is daring, risky,   easy to sing and hear, inexpensive, and instantly avail-
         and somewhat arrogant, right? After all, what makes   able. But it seems that composers need longer-based
         you think that a group of people will take the time   relationships with conductors and employers, with ar-
         and effort to try and realize something that came from   rangements that allow for development through time.


         your feeble mind? Do you have anything signifi cant to   Universities offer such opportunities for a few modern
         say? What makes you think that an audience will pay   composers, but they still seem to end up composing in
         money and then sit quietly while your music is being   their spare time.
         presented? In my observation, successful composers
         develop social skills, are well connected with friends   5) Throughout your career, you have developed
         and society, and are daring and forthright. I realize   considerable knowledge and skills, establish-
         that there are Van Goghs in the music world but, sadly,   ing a solid reputation for your choral music. If
         most are lost to obscurity.                        you gave a seminar to aspiring young compos-
            I should say that the Internet and social media have   ers, what key points would you emphasize?

         made all the difference in recent years. In my view, a
         smart composer will think over what needs to be said   NICKEL: A key point to young composers: try to
         and how to say it in a compelling way, considering the   ensure that your music has something worthwhile to
         proclivities and abilities of the commissioning choir   convey. This can be an issue, considering that young
         and the “ears” of the intended audience. If you want   composers are still developing convictions and a phi-

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